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3-30-21, measure spr force only on dyno with static 6 inch stroke.
-- meas spr+gas, meas gas+spr
-- meas fwhl, meas Fwheel, meas spr+prel, meas prel+spr, remove bleed screw measure spring force only |
3149 IS CURRENT BASELINE SPEC SHEET FOR AER WITH GP BV BP V2 AND GP SC BP V4 WITH NO BV PREL |
3150 IS CURRENT BASELINE SPEC SHEET FOR AER WITH GP BV BP V2 AND GP SC BP V4 WITH BV PREL |
4-29-21
a) Use 3508f to set up new FORK Air Spr Fwhl - Static 3-6-9 test.
b) Adjust Fk Fwheel tab to accept new numbers without drag. |
4CS bullet ck ndl, compare mv and reb force with and without bullet ck needle |
4CS bullet ck ndl, compare mv force with and without bullet ck needle |
4CS bullet ck ndl, compare with and without bullet ck needle, also reb shim notch |
4CS bv gp adj bb, 4mm countersink for ls stack |
4CS bv gp adj bb, compare v1 - v2 - v3 |
4CS bv gp adj bb, half kit baseline spec sheet with mv bleed |
4CS bv gp adj bb, half kit baseline spec sheet without mv bleed |
4CS bv gp adj bb, half kit press tests, stk bv pist and basebolt in F1, gp adj bb v3 in F2 |
4CS bv gp adj bb, v2 9.5mm is smallest base dia that can be used |
4CS bv icpist, icpist drag forces before and after polishing pertinent surfaces |
4CS bv icspr, icspr coil bind and fork clanking |
4CS bv ls circuit, 4mm counter sink hole |
4CS bv ls circuit, compare with and without ls stack, 2598, 2599 |
4CS bv ls circuit, ls bleed stack on gp adj bb v2 with 4, 7 lbs bv force at 3 and 10ips, 2431, 2432 |
4CS bv notch bld shim, 29mm notched bleed shim hangs on threads |
4CS bv notched bld shim, notched shim covering 2 of 3 bv ports, 2ports, 3ports |
4CS bv pist, compare stk 14 and 15 bv pist |
4CS bv shim def, measure bv shim deflection |
4CS cobra fork lugs |
4CS ctg bld holes, close top and bottom holes, all combinations |
4CS dyno and press test stock valving stk valving, dyno numbers are (f1+f2)/2 |
4CS fk bott system, huck valve high drag forces, machined huck valve |
4CS fk bott system, huck valve high drag forces, stk huck valve |
4CS fk bott system, huck valve, with and without |
4CS fk bott system, with 14 hydrostop |
4CS fk click range bv, bc click range for 7 tests at 70ips |
4CS fk click range reb, dyno graphs |
4CS fk click range reb, r0 |
4CS fk oil, test with foamy oil, remove 3 + 6cc oil |
4CS fkbv target nu, for stk bv pist with 28.10 bld shim, soft-aver-stiff-stiff+1 |
4CS fkr zeta, notable tests to compare lower and higher reb force for rzeta |
4CS half kit, first half kit tested by Bert |
4CS mv bellv, test bellv washers in the mv, 2565 - 2569 |
4CS mv float, compensate/balance mv force for opt 3 and opt 4, opt 3 = .36 float, opt 4 = .29 float, mv force same at 70ips |
4CS mv pist bld, k20-yz85 mv pist with and without reb bleed hole, 2081, 2444 |
4CS mv pist, adam-rev2 mv pist, 2115, 2119 |
4CS mv pist, yz85 mv pist stiffer than stk 15 mv pist |
4CS mv rod, rod hits solid / cushiony spot |
4CS mv shim def, measure mv shim deflection |
4CS mv shims, bent |
4CS reb shim def, measure reb shim deflection |
4CS reb shim notch, notched reb bleed shim |
4CS reb shims, 2014 reb noise, vibration, frequency video |
4CS reb shims, baseline reb for stk mv pist w bleed, -3, -14, -123 |
4CS reb shims, baseline reb for stk mv pist w bleed, new lighter reb, -3, -15, -97 |
4CS reb shims, baseline reb for stk mv pist wo bleed |
4CS reb shims, baseline reb for yz85 mv pist w bleed |
4CS reb shims, baseline reb for yz85 mv pist wo bleed (based on old targets, does not match with new r-zeta, but leave up for now until we can readjust the whole thing) |
4CS reb shims, bending |
4CS reb shims, packing |
4CS seal drag test, full fork, good series of tests for fork seal drag. Fork seal drag from the main seal |
4CS seal drag test, full fork, sideways bind |
AER bv baseplate bv stem bv pist, bv configurations are the same but bv forces are different, 3351 - 3349, 3374 - 3323 |
AER bv icspr, FIRST test using 2.0 kg cut icspr with 6mm prel |
AER bv ls circuit, first test with custom made ls circuit for AER bv stem |
AER bv stem, FIRST TEST with SFCHH-10 bv stem with 1.95mm insert and s33.25 bv pist |
AER bv stem, FIRST TEST with SFCHH-10 bv stem with 1.95mm insert, used stk wp bv pist |
AER bv stem, we added extra herschel 1.95mm insert at top of stem, it did not many any difference in bv force |
AER dyno graphs, graph has funky curve and dips at 30ips where we prefer liner/digressive curve, we looked back to 3327, 3323 and they were similar, investigate! |
AER fk air spr, airSprForce_calc_F1_03.xlsx excel |
AER fk air spr, chart with psi and oil level, tested at .4ips, e.g. 200cc at 138psi = 300cc at 113psi. |
AER fk air spr, measure fork air spring force using Addy F1 ktech aer spring conversion. New oil levels 480cc, 290cc, meas fk air spr force using ktech aer spr convers. |
AER fk click range bv, this test has extra bv click range tests and compares DFF d.bleed vs SFF d.bleed |
AER fkbv target nu, fkmv target nu . . . finish this when done with this series and create excel file with trend line showing complete range. |
AER fkmv target nu, ten dyno graphs attempting to hit stiff+8, BUT with bogus mv stacks using 9.3 sep shims |
AER Fork Ctg Fwhl - 0-11str test.
This is the equivalent of / replacing the drop xbar 1in test.
We tested with new sheet and used regular solid bottom dyno mount, simply screwing the bottom mount half way onto crank actuator, then turn mount to get about .2 prel
Also see Fork > 100_fk_airspr > 112 |
AER gp bv bp v2, FIRST test with gp bv bp v2. Compare 3157 vs 3136. |
AER gp sc bp v5, mv knocking noise from 23.2 x 16id, 2.15 dish down, same shim dish up did not knock |
AER ktech spring conversion.
12-25-20. We ran several fork air spring Fwheel tests trying to determine how to preload the fork, but did not come up with a definitive method. The measured and calculated are off at 1-6" stroke, possibly having something to do with drag force, and/or how we mount and preload the fork. We will have to pick this up again later and see if we can figure it out.
Also see Fork > 100_fk_airspr > 112.
-- meas spr+gas, meas gas+spr
-- meas fwhl, meas Fwheel, meas spr+prel, meas prel+spr, remove bleed screw measure spring force only |
AER ktech spring conversion. fk air spr fwhl
12-25-20. We ran several fork air spring Fwheel tests trying to determine how to preload the fork, but did not come up with a definitive method. The measured and calculated are off at 1-6" stroke, possibly having something to do with drag force, and/or how we mount and preload the fork. We will have to pick this up again later and see if we can figure it out.
Also see Fork > 100_fk_airspr > 112. |
AER misc, lag on reb stroke pushing by hand |
AER mv bld shim, 6id shims, compare mv force with and without 28.10 bleed shim, 2833, 2834 |
AER mv bld shim, 8mm sc, compare reb force with and without mv bleed shims, 2746, 2747 |
AER mv bld shim, compare reb and mv forces with and without 28.10 mv bleed shim, 2847, 2848 |
AER mv cup, FIRST TEST with gp sc bcup v1. We took gp sc bp v4 and machined to remove the 15mm step to get gp sc bcup v1, giving it apx .50 cup depth. v1 used in tests 3542, 3543, 3544, see 3550 for v2
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AER mv float, wave shim knocking noise from gp sc bp v4, 2740, 2741, 2830 |
AER mv float, wave shim thickness and dish ht for gp sc bp v4, final shim dimens to prevent knocking |
AER mv float, wave shim thickness and dish ht tests for gp sc bp v4, 2831, 2832, 2833, 2875, 2876, 2877, 2878, 2879, 2880 |
AER mv max def, FIRST test with 1.69 mv max def |
AER mv max def, we set Rob mv max def at 1.65mm and he said forks worked great, we will assume 1.65 to be ok |
AER mv pist bld, reb pist bld, steel mv pist, test 1 - #49 bld hole drilled reb side
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AER mv pist, compare plastic mv piston with steel mv piston |
AER mv pist, compare w34-steel-18, w34-steel-16, w34-plastic with prel and w34-plastic with 0000 surf prel |
AER mv sc, plastic mv pist, 8mm sc mushed plastic mv pist, we tried 10.10 shim to prevent/minimalize the mush, 2743, 2744, 2746, 2747, we would never put this in customer fork |
AER mv sc, plastic mv pist, 8mm sc puts indent in plastic mv pist |
AER mv sc, plastic mv pist, first tests with gp sc bp v4, try 15.10 shims above to prevent mush, 2935, 2936, 2937, 2938, we would never put this in customer fork |
AER mv shim def, meas mv shim stack deflection |
AER mv shims, 6id shims bent using 4 - 12.10 sep |
AER mv shims, 6id shims with no float, 13.1 above and below 8.10 and 8.15 b, the 13.1 shims hit later and mv force is softer with 8.15 b, 2845, 2846 |
AER mv shims, 6id shims with no float, 14.1 above and below 8.10 b, the 14.1 shims hit at about 30ips increasing mv force, 2846, 2847 |
AER mv shims, high frequency squeak on reb stroke |
AER mv shims, test 8.3 x 6id sc/shim with 30.15 x 8id floating shims and 9.3 sep shim, 2512, 2514, 2515, 2516 |
AER mv shims, test 9.3 and 10.2 sep shims, 2504, 2505, 2507, 2508 |
AER mv shims, test 9.5 sep with 28.10 bld. |
AER mv stem, machine 1.5mm of mv stem |
AER reb bld shim mv float, good comparison tests with .11, .31, .51 mv float and 0, 1, 2 reb bleed shims |
AER reb bld shim, compare reb with 0bld, 1bld, 2bld. |
AER reb shim def, 20.1 shim hits 18x3 washer and bends |
AER reb shim def, reb shims hit 25 x 1 washer |
AER reb shims, steel pist, baseline reb of -4, -14, -27, -95 --> call it baseline 95 |
AER reb shims, steel pist, baseline reb of -4, -15, -29, -103 --> call it baseline 100 |
AER spr convers mv stop, FIRST attempt to move mv stop shim up so it acts like two stage stack |
AER use restackor to determine reduction in fork dive between 3583 and 3603 by stiffening bv stack and increasing oil level.
ALSO, AER fork seals leaked after 2 rides. We measured lateral play/slop with Innteck bushings. We also measured new SKF, used SKF and CSR oil and dust seals for wear/stretch. See manila folder. |
AER use VLM to determine reduction in fork dive between 3583 and 3603 by stiffening bv stack and increasing oil level. |
AER, put the 16sxffe450-bert forks on David 17 XC 300 to sell, sold. |
bv check, XPLOR, ktech bv piston and check washer, the XPLOR fork has 28mm dia bv pist with 26mm check washer, this leaves 83mm^2 flow area between check washer and ctg tube wall, very restrictive |
bv shim stack deflection, install stop to see if bv shims hit. |
Click range with #52 chole center hole |
fk bott system, PHM AER spr convers fork bottoming system, first dyno tests. |
fk oil, compare kyb 5wt, showa ss-8 10wt and blended 7.5wt, with test 3462 we will start using 7.5wt oil in select fork builds
5 wt, 7.5 wt, 10 wt, compare 5wt, compare 7.5wt, compare 10wt |
fk oil, compare kyb 5wt, ss-8 10wt, on this test there was huge difference.
---> We will have to rerun and decide what oil we want to use.
5 wt, 10 wt, compare 5wt, compare 10wt |
fk oil, First test with 10wt.
first 10wt |
fk sag, measure fork sag with Mike on bike.
meas fork sag, meas fk sag |
Fork, fork bushing side load tests. Fork bushing drag tests. See manila folders for 3687 and 3688 for preliminary test results. |
ktech xplor fork kit (117-600-023-001).
-023-001 kit was for 2017-2018. In 2019 KTM changed the dimension of bottom cartridge tube receiving piece and made it smaller.
1) We had to machine the 2018 ktech bv piston od to get it to fit
-- 2018 od = 27.78mm with 2x25 oring
-- 2019 od = 27.28mm with 1.5x25 oring
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KYB CV, cavitation |
KYB CV, cylinder valve, close off |
KYB TC bv pist, compare Showa 33.25 against KYB 35 |
KYB TC bv pist, swap usd |
KYB TC bv prel, bv piston preload |
KYB TC bv shims, add sep |
KYB TC bv shims, swap .15 thickness sep shim in hs stack |
KYB TC bv shims, assemble shims dry, spray with contact cleaner and air |
KYB TC bv washer, bv 20 x 1.6 w alum vs 20 x 1.6 w steel |
KYB TC fk cut nuts, comp and reb get stiffer |
KYB TC fk cut nuts, comp and reb get stiffer, F1 2960, F1 2961, F2 2962, F2 2963 |
KYB TC fkbv target nu, dyno and press test 8 AX valve stacks, figure out how to document |
KYB TC fkr target nu, r-0 to see effect on mv comp |
KYB TC mv cup, stiffer cup shims |
KYB TC mv cup, stop under cup shims |
KYB TC mv float, change mv float |
KYB TC mv pist bld, compare mv and reb force with and without 1 - #56 bleed, 1950, 1951 |
KYB TC mv stem, #52 center hole restriction for 10-11yzf450, 1949, 1950 |
KYB TC, Bubba front end washed out, we use Foale software to determine how much to raise tubes and compared to 3603f Connor Addy ideal. |
KYB TC, mcr vs pvp |
Marzocchi 35mm Shiver fork |
MINI SHOWA bv pist, bv check cavitated |
MINI SHOWA, bv cavitated from bv ck check, RM 85 fork |
NOTE that we spent considerable amount of time coming up with new way to measure phm spr conv prel and fork growth, see manila file. |
OCASD, tests 3809, 3810, 3811 were used to determine best method of testing using OCASD. Details in fk obj. |
PSF1 air bal spr |
PSF1 best PSF1 fork build |
PSF1 bv assy, 10z, bv pump, dimensions and diagrams |
PSF1 bv assy, n10z, bv pump, smaller pump area for reduced pump action |
PSF1 bv icpist, air fork, air leaked past icpiston, ctg oil fluid foamed |
PSF1 bv shims, remove ls bleed stack |
PSF1 introduce air into fork ctg, dyno test foamy oil |
PSF1, tap test |
SFF SHOWA TC bv icpist, cavitation, oil pushed into upper ic chamber on sff |
SFF SHOWA TC fk cut nuts, comp and reb get stiffer |
Showa conversion fork, showa convers fork, Todd Stockton rode |
SHOWA TC bv ls circuit, notched bleed shim for ls / bleed circuit |
SHOWA TC bv pist, check ball, surprising dyno results |
SHOWA TC bv pist, swap usd |
SHOWA TC fk ctg, spring seat, calculate and measure when the oil hits the spring seat |
SHOWA TC icspr, compare different rates |
SHOWA TC mv cup, kyb style mv cup |
SHOWA TC mv float, various floats |
SHOWA TC mv pist, bv ck check plate, hit bottom, all flow thru small bleed hole in ck cup |
SHOWA TC mv pist, mv check height |
SHOWA TC mv rod, 12 vs 12.5 mm rod |
SHOWA TC mv slide plate, bent shims |
SHOWA TC reb pist, pist prel |
SHOWA TC, seal drag test, full fork |
This bv click range is actually comparing same the valving back to back, pg1 vs p2, to see how much forces drop from run1 to run2 with 5wt oil.
See 3746 where we do the same with 10wt oil.
Compare 5wt oil with 10wt oil. 5 wt 10 wt |
This rec_id has info on bubba fork seals leaking after 30 min riding. fork seals leaked fk seals leak |
USD DFF KYB TC bv stem, compare low speed bv comp force between 10crf250 stk bv stem vs 08yz250 stk bv stem |
USD DFF SHOWA TC bv stem, modify stk stem cHole, add 1.95mm insert [nu48] |
USD SFF WP AER bv needle, machine add-on restrictor piece to see if it increases bv force at 1-5 ips, it did not. |
USD SFF WP AER bv stem, machine 1mm off bv stem seat, used bv stem from 16sxffe450 |
WP fork OCASD initial setup notes are found in 3796, 3797, 3798 |
WP TC BLADDER fk air spr, measure fork air spring with ctg only (no spring or oil) with ctg and spring only (no oil) and with ctg, spring and oil. meas fk air spr |
WP TC BLADDER reb shims, baseline reb stack |
WP XPLOR fork, phm xplor kit base bolt and needle, we decided on bc-10 as default clicker setting |